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NHTSA ID Number: 10130822

Manufacturer Communication Number: IK0800080

TSB/Document Date: 2018-04-02


Summary

J1939 Data Link Troubleshooting


8(‐)

TCM ‐ Allison

1503

In cab

10(+)

9(‐)

Allison MD / HD 3000

7204F

TCM Black

13(+) 29(‐)

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TCM

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Allison MD / HD 3000 Gen 4

7151

28(+)

8(‐)

Allison TC10 Shift Selector
Allison WTEC Shift Selector

1852

8(+)

15(‐)

ESC ‐ Electrical System
Controller

1600

In cab ‐ Left kick
panel

34(+) 35(‐)

BC ‐ Body Controller

1602 (J5)

In cab ‐ Left kick
panel

F3(+) F2(‐)

EGC ‐ Electronic Gauge Cluster

1500

Left side of dash

4(+)

EGC ‐ Electronic Gauge Cluster

1501

Left side of dash

12(+) 11(‐)

Compass Module

1912

Behind fuse
panel (HPV)
Center of headliner
(5000/9000)

2(+)

3(‐)

SART Module

1610

In dash ‐ behind EGC

C(+)

D(‐)

SIC (Secondary Instrument
Cluster)

1502

Center dash

7(+)

4(‐)

5(‐)

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Optional Gauge Pack

1510

AGSP (Aux Gauge Switch Pack)

1512

Right side dash

11(+) 10(‐)

TPMS (Tire pressure monitor
system)

8993F

Near radiator
crossmember

12(+) 11(‐)

EatoneBay logo Autoshift / Ultrashift
DM2

7905

At Gear Shift Selector G2(+) G3(‐)

EatoneBay logo Autoshift / Ultrashift
DM3

7105
7909
7910

TCM

EatoneBay logo Vorad

1227

EatoneBay logo Vorad VS‐400

8901

PAM Pyro ‐ AMP Meter Module 4087

11(+) 10(‐)

3(+)

2(‐)

D7(+) D8(‐)

Center of bumper
support bracket

4(+)

5(‐)

Cowl

7(+)

8(‐)

CumminseBay logo ISM Engine ECM

6000
6014

Engine ECM

46(+) 47(‐)

CAT Engine ECM

6013

Engine ECM

50(+) 34(‐)

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MeritoreBay logo Freedomline Trans
TCM

7103

TCM

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A(+)

B(‐)

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Service Information (Known Issues) ‐ Potential failure location based on case file information
• 05/12/2016 ‐ The EZ‐Tech Launcher can slow down data link traffic causing fault codes to set when no issue is present.
• Typically these faults are INACTIVE, and have very low counts when they are caused by the service tool.
• Do not diagnose these Inactive faults without a driver complaint.
◦ Possible DTCs
SPN

FMI

Module

Description

2000

9

Body Controller
Cluster

ECM Data Link Comm. Failure
Loss of data link from the Engine Controller

2003

9

Body Controller
Cluster

TCM Data Link Comm. Failure
Loss of data link from the Transmission Controller

2011

9

Body Controller
Cluster

ABSeBay logo Data Link Comm. Failure
Loss of data link from ABSeBay logo Controller

2000

19

Body Controller

PTC1 (PGN 64892) not received from Engine

2023

9

Body Controller

EGC Data Link Comm. Failure

639

2

Brakes, System Controller

Loss of data link from Engine Controller

639

14

Brakes, System Controller

Loss of data link from Engine Controller

SID 231

2

Brakes, Power Unit

SAE J1939 Data Link

SID 231

14

Brakes, Power Unit

SAE J1939 Data Link

NOTE: For a screen shot of this occurring on the Launcher Screen CLICK HERE

• 6/9/2014 ‐ Recent information from the field has shown a potential failure location
• A poor connection on the splice the ties the ABSeBay logo module into the Back‐bone of the data link was found on multiple units
◦ This splice is in the cab, and the harness is common between multiple chassis and engine platforms
◦ At this time (6/9/2014) the earliest build date affected is 09/23/2013
◦ Anything built after this date is suspect for splice issues
◦ Possible DTCs
SPN

FMI

Module

Description

639

9

ECM

Drivetrain Message Timeout

639

9

Body Controller

J1939 Drivetrain Data Link Lost

2011

9

Body Controller

ABSeBay logo Data Link Comm. Failure

2000

9

Body Controller

ECM Data Link Comm. Failure

2023

9

Body Controller

EGC Data Link Comm. Failure

2003

9

Body Controller

TCM Data Link Comm. Failure

2000

19

Body Controller

PTC1 (PGN 64892) not received from Engine

2000

9

Instrument Cluster

Loss of Data Link from Engine Controller

2011

9

Instrument Cluster

Loss of Data Link from ABSeBay logo Controller

2003

9

Instrument Cluster

Loss of Data Link from the Transmission Controller

2033

9

Instrument Cluster

Loss of Data Link from the ESC

• If you have these faults and the vehicle build date is near August 2013 or Newer you will need to troubleshoot this splice in the data link if no obvious
failures are found
• Follow the harness from the ABSeBay logo module to the Data Link Backbone. Once you locate the splice, wiggle test that connection (also twist the spice in your
fingers) while monitoring the data link resistance. (If a resistance check does not show any fault, repeat this test monitoring data link voltage as well)
• Cab temperature was effecting the data link behavior in one of the vehicles found to have this issue

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• Inspecting the splice is destructive, you will need to remove the splice section use a closed barrel butt connector to crimp, solder and heat shrink the
splice location. Use proper wire repair techniques as outlined in IK0800269 ‐ Proper Wire Repair
Crimp location: Right side of cab above the ABSeBay logo module, next to the HVAC box. The condensation module (if installed) will be zip tied to or near the splice.

Close view of crimp location

Harness removed from truck for identification

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Wire condition at crimp to ABSeBay logo module

Wire condition at crimp to ABSeBay logo module (2nd photo)

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Examples of Modules for 250k Baud
• The 250k Baud Drivetrain data link is a Public data link which consists of any module that is present on the data link when you plug into
the ATA diagnostic connector.
• Examples:
ECM

Body Controller

TCM

Instrument Cluster

ABSeBay logo

Collision Avoidance System (Wingman, OnGuard)

The MaxxForce 7 TMV (Thermal Management Valve) is on the Public data link. This module will not show up on the sniffer.
The ECM Engine and Chassis connector's data link terminals are connected internally to the module.
E13 and C53 are internally connected. E14 and C54 are internally connected.
• The Body Builder data link is a Private data link which consists of modules communicating to each other. You cannot use a diagnostic
tool to communicate with this private data link.
• Examples:
Body Controller (This module is on the public and private data link
independently)
Sleeper HVAC (Standard and No‐Idle systems)
RPM (Remote Power Module)
• The Engine data link is a Private data link which consists of engine related modules communicating to each other. You cannot use a
diagnostic tool to communicate with this private data link.
• Examples:
EPA07 MaxxForce 11 / 13

EPA10 N13 SCR

EPA10 ISX15eBay logo SCR

ECM

ECM

ECM

EIM

ACM

VGT

ACM

AFT Modules / Sensors

AFT Modules / Sensors

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500k Baud Vehicle Architecture ‐ Phase 1
This can be properly identified by looking in the components tab of the vehicle and looking for a GREEN 9‐Pin connector and feature:
0508095 ‐ ELECTRICAL SYSTEM ENHANCED VCM FUNCTIONS for VCM Enhanced Functions
500k Phase 1 Vehicle Data Link Topology

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500k Baud Vehicle Architecture ‐ Phase 2
This can be properly identified by looking in the components tab of the vehicle and looking for a GREEN 9‐Pin connector and feature:
0508097 ‐ ELEC SYS MUX COMMON ARCHITECTURE for Electrical Common Architecture System
• This feature and vehicle architecture launched with the LT Model
500k Phase 2 Vehicle Data Link Topology

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