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NHTSA ID Number: 10130823

Manufacturer Communication Number: IK0800326

TSB/Document Date: 2018-04-02


Summary

Auto Start Stop Troubleshooting; only models with feature code 0008TSJ Auto Start Stop


IK0800326 ­ ProStar with feature code 0008TSJ Auto Start Stop Troubleshooting

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IK0800326
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Availability: ISIS, FleetISIS, NotSIR

Revision:

7

Major
System:

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

Created:

1/5/2012

English

Last
Modified:

6/28/2017

Author:

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Title : ProStar with feature code 0008TSJ Auto Start Stop Troubleshooting
Applies To : ProStar

Change Log
Please refer to the change log text box below for recent changes to this article:
06/28/2017 ‐ Added J1939 Multiplexing parameter to CumminseBay logo parameter list.
02/04/2015 ‐ Added parameter list for CumminseBay logo ISX engine and the Body Controller.

Description
Feature code 0008TSJ for auto start stop is a feature that will allow you to preset values in the body controller to allow the truck to start when
the battery voltage or engine oil temperature reaches the preset value. The truck will then run for a preset time after battery voltage is within
programmed value or oil temperature is at programmed value.
• For operators manual for auto start stop Click Here.

Troubleshooting
• Auto Start/Stop Troubleshooting for ProStar® and LoneStar® (S08358) Click Here.
• Auto Start/Stop Troubleshooting for ProStar® and LoneStar® (S08358 PDF) Click Here.
System Description is Chapter 7
Troubleshooting is Chapter 8
• Below are updated ECM and Body Controller Auto Start Stop Default Settings, these settings provide optimal performance.
◦ If the customer has Idle Shutdown Enabled, then Idle Shutdown With Parking Brake Set and In PTO must be set to Disable
◦ If Idle Shutdown shuts the engine off during an Auto Start event, the Auto Start/Stop system will be disabled.
◦ The Diamond Logic Builder (DLB) Parameter list is designed for optimal battery life.
◦ Changing the parameters below may result in poor system performance or shortened battery life.

CumminseBay logo ISX 15L Auto Start Stop Parameters
CumminseBay logo INSITE
Idle Shutdown

Enable

• Idle Shutdown Coolant Temperature
Threshold

30

°F

• Percent Engine Load

90

Percent

• Time Before Shutdown

00:05:00

HH:MM:SS

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IK0800326 ­ ProStar with feature code 0008TSJ Auto Start Stop Troubleshooting

• Ambient Temperature Override

Disable

• Greenhouse Gas Idle Shutdown

Disable

• Idle Shutdown With Parking Brake Set

Disable

• In PTO

Disable

• Manual Override

Disable

• Shutdown Accessory Relay

Not Installed

• Warning Period

Disable

PTO

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Enable

• PTO Speed 1 Device

0

• PTO Speed 2 Device

0

• PTO Speed 3 Device

0

• PTO Speed 4 Device

0

• PTO Speed 5 Device

0

• PTO Speed 6 Device

0

• PTO Speed 7 Device

0

• PTO Speed 8 Device

0

• Additional Switch Speed

1000

RPM

• Maximum Engine Load

800

Ft*lb

• Maximum Speed

1800

RPM

• Maximum Vehicle Speed

6

Mph

• Minimum Speed

500

RPM

100

Rpm/s

1000

RPM

650

RPM

1

2

Ramp Rate

3

• Resume Switch Speed
4

• Set Switch Speed

SAE J1939 Multiplexing
• PTO On/Off Switch

Enable
Source Address 33 ‐ Body Controller

1. Set 'Maximum Speed' to 1800 RPM so the ECM is not governed at 1000 RPM.
• This allows the engine to run at 1000 RPM or above, resulting in consistent
engine speed when running in Auto Start Stop.
• Maximum Speed cannot be less than 1200 RPM
2. Set 'Ramp Rate' to 100 rpm/s for a smoother transition of engine speed while
ramping.
3. Set 'Resume Switch' Speed to 1000 RPM
• If the momentary press for engine PTO does not happen, the ECM will still
ramp the engine speed to 1000 RPM
4. Set 'Set Switch Speed' to 650 RPM so the initial set message from the BCM to
ECM does not cause a sudden increase in engine speed.

InternationaleBay logo Diamond Logic Builder (DLB)
BC PROG, AUTO START STOP with Switch
Control

0595BNR

Installed

• 2530 ‐ Wait To Start Bypass

Checked

On/Off

• 2536 ‐ Battery Low Trip Point

12.1

V

• 2537 ‐ Battery Run Time

70

min

• 2538 ‐ Engine Idle Delay

90

s

• 2541 ‐ Engine Ramp Delay

5

s

• 2571 ‐ Low Battery Time

30

s

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IK0800326 ­ ProStar with feature code 0008TSJ Auto Start Stop Troubleshooting

• 2674 ‐ Auto SS Horn Enable

Checked

On/Off

• 2742 ‐ Engine Run Time

5

min

• 2743 ‐ Battery High Trip Point

12.7

V

• 2774 ‐ Auto SS Acc Pwr Fuse

10

A

• 2775 ‐ Auto SS Ign Pwr Fuse

10

A

• 2776 ‐ Auto SS Iso Pwr Fuse

10

A

• 2777 ‐ Auto SS Starter Pwr Fuse

10

A

• 2778 ‐ Auto SS AC Pwr Fuse

10

A

• 2779 ‐ Auto SS Heat Pwr Fuse

10

A

• 2825 ‐ Eng Oil Temp Enable

Checked

On/Off

• 2829 ‐ Auto SS Start Temperature

50

F

• 2830 ‐ Auto SS Stop Temperature

100.4

F

• 2836 ‐ Cruise Control Set Param

500

ms

• 2837 ‐ Cruise Control Enable Param

1000

ms

• 2838 ‐ Cruise Control Resume Param

1500

ms

• 2839 ‐ Key Chk Time

30

s

• 2861 ‐ Low Temperature Time

15

min

• 2862 ‐ High Temperature Time

1

min

• 2863 ‐ Auto SS Engine CAP Delay

120

s

• 3031 ‐ Auto SS Engine CAP Speed

1000

RPM

• 3032 ‐ Auto SS Ambient Temp CAP

56.019

F

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• For the correct InternationaleBay logo Engine parameters use ServiceMaxx and apply this Template.
• For circuit diagram for auto start stop Click Here.
• For troubleshooting use this Session in DLB.
◦ Save session to desktop then follow procedure to load the session in DLB
• How to load session in DLB Click Here.

Description ‐ Auto Start/Stop Engine Shuts Down Prematurely
The customer may state the auto start stop will start the engine and then within a few minutes the engine will shut down. They may also
mention the "Idle shutdown light" in the gauge cluster comes on just before the engine shuts down. The engine may not ramp to 1000RPM when
auto start is engaged (idles only).
If the vehicle in question has feature code 595BVG in the body controller follow the below repair procedure to install feature code 595BNR.

Repair Procedure
If the customer has the above concern, perform the repair procedure.
• Feature change procedure
If feature code 595BNR is installed and the customer complains of extended runtime, follow the parameter change procedure to change the
battery high voltage trip point.
• Parameter change procedure

Description ‐ ISX units with Auto Start/Stop Turn on after 15mins
This issue is specific to ISX Engine vehicles. The customer complaint may state that when in no‐idle mode the engine will start after 15 mins, but
will not shut down after the 70 minute programmed time out. This could be due to a missing ZVR circuit between the oil temp sensor and the

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body controller. This results in the body controller sensing engine oil temperature is very cold, and will keep the engine running even though the
timer threshold is met.
Part #

Description

Qty

3535424C1

Seal/Sleeve

2

3535303C1

Terminal

2

Source locally

18 gauge wire

Cut to length

Repair Procedure
Verify Customer concern of the Auto Start / Stop system stays running. If the concern is verified, check with DLB for the engine oil temperature
reading. If it reads ‐40F, perform the following repair procedure.
• Rework instructions
After performing the rework instructions, verify proper system operation.

Other Resources
• Master Service Information Page
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