NHTSA ID Number: 10117328
Manufacturer Communication Number: A17-011
TSB/Document Date: 2017-09-14
Summary
Service bulletin - Some 9-speed transmission warmers were improperly manufactured and allow the engine coolant and ATF to mix. If the fluids mix, the engine and transmission may be permanently damaged and require replacement. These vehicles previously had the transmission replaced because the transmission warmers leaked. In rare cases, these vehicles may have also overheated but because the issue was under investigation, a standard repair procedure hadn't been developed. Further action is needed before the vehicle is completely repaired.
Service Bulletin
17-011
August 25, 2017
07240 Version 3
Product Update: 9-Speed Transmission Warmer (Transmission
Previously Replaced for Transmission Warmer Leaking)
Supersedes 17-011, dated August 4, 2017, to revise the information highlighted in yellow
AFFECTED VEHICLES
Year
Model
2016
Pilot
2017
Pilot
Trim
All with 9-speed A/T
All with 9-speed A/T
VIN Range
Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
Check the iN VIN status for eligibility
(One Pilot affected)
REVISION SUMMARY
• 2017 Pilot was added to AFFECTED VEHICLES.
• Two hoses were added to PARTS INFORMATION.
• Information was added to WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION.
BACKGROUND
Some 9-speed transmission warmers were improperly manufactured and allow the engine coolant and ATF to mix. If the
fluids mix, the engine and transmission may be permanently damaged and require replacement. These vehicles
previously had the transmission replaced because the transmission warmers leaked. In rare cases, these vehicles may
have also overheated but because the issue was under investigation, a standard repair procedure hadn’t been
developed. Further action is needed before the vehicle is completely repaired.
Make sure you review this bulletin in its entirety before starting. There are multiple repairs available, and the correct one
for the vehicle you are working on is based on your inspection and customer interview responses.
CUSTOMER NOTIFICATION
Owners of affected vehicles will be sent a notification of this campaign.
Do an iN VIN status inquiry to make sure the vehicle is shown as eligible.
Some vehicles affected by this campaign may be in your new or used vehicle inventory. Repair these vehicles before
they are sold.
CUSTOMER INFORMATION: The information in this bulletin is intended for use only by skilled technicians who have the proper tools,
equipment, and training to correctly and safely maintain your vehicle. These procedures should not be attempted by “do-it-yourselfers,” and
you should not assume this bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle has the condition described. To determine whether this
information applies, contact an authorized Honda
automobile dealer.
© 2017 American Honda
Motor Co., Inc. – All Rights Reserved
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SERVICE ADVISOR
Ask the customer if the vehicle overheated, for example, if the MID showed a message Stop Driving Engine
Temperature Too Hot or there was steam from under the hood. Other signs include coolant leaking from the radiator
cap or the coolant reserve tank.
The vehicles in this campaign had the transmission previously replaced. The vehicle may have overheated due to the
warmer leaking on the previous repair; ask the customer if the vehicle overheated before the transmission was
replaced. This will help your technician decide what repair needs to be done.
Write down the customer responses on the RO.
NOTE: Any engine replaced without this documentation on the signed RO will be subject to debit.
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CORRECTIVE ACTION
Inspect the warmer, and based on your inspection and interview with the customer, do one of the following:
• Replace the transmission warmer, replace the radiator, coolant hoses, thermostat, coolant reserve tank,
2 ECT sensor (1 and 2) O-rings, and flush the cooling system.
• Replace the transmission, radiator, coolant hoses, thermostat, coolant reserve tank, 2 ECT sensor (1 and 2)
O-rings, and flush the cooling system.
• Replace the short block, cylinder heads, radiator, thermostat, coolant reserve tank, all of the coolant hoses, 2 ECT
sensor (1 and 2) O-rings, water passage, water connecting pipe, and flush the heater core.
• Replace the radiator, coolant hoses, thermostat, coolant reserve tank, 2 ECT sensor (1 and 2) O-rings, and flush
the cooling system.
• Replace the short block, cylinder heads, transmission, radiator, thermostat, coolant reserve tank, all of the coolant
hoses, 2 ECT sensor (1 and 2) O-rings, water passage, water connecting pipe, and flush the heater core.
The flowchart below provides a summary to help navigate the inspection and repair procedure. Make sure you read the
service bulletin steps thoroughly for the detailed repair information.
Start
REPAIR PROCEDURE A
- Replace radiator and
hoses
- Flush engine
No
Did the vehicle
overheat?
Good
Check the ATF warmer date.
Yes
No Good
REPAIR PROCEDURE B
Replace the engine,
radiator, and hoses
-Flush heater core
Remove the ATF warmer and
check for leaks.
REPAIR PROCEDURE A
- Replace the ATF warmer if the
date is within affected range.
- Flush engine
No
Does ATF warmer leak?
No
Did the vehicle overheat?
Yes
REPAIR PROCEDURE B
- Replace engine, radiator, and
hoses.
- Replace the ATF warmer if the
date is within affected range.
- Flush heater core
Yes
Did the vehicle overheat?
No
REPAIR PROCEDURE C
- Replace transmission, radiator,
and hoses.
- Flush engine.
Yes
REPAIR PROCEDURE D
- Replace engine, transmission,
radiator, and hoses
- Flush heater core
End
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WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
NOTE:
• Very few engine blocks should be replaced because of overheating. Replaced engine blocks may be called in to
validate damage to the original block.
• Replacement of the engine block
and/or transmission requires DPSM authorization.
Inspection and REPAIR PROCEDURE A
Operation
Number
2185D2
Description
Flat Rate
Time
Defect
Code
Symptom
Code
Template
ID
Failed Part Number
Inspect the ATF warmer
manufacture date, check
vehicle for overheating
and do REPAIR
PROCEDURE A
3.7 hrs
6ZF00
KG400
A17011A
06201-5EY-A05
3.7 hrs
6ZF00
KG400
A17011B
06201-5EY-A05
- Replace radiator and
hoses
- Flush engine
2185D2
Inspect the ATF warmer
manufacture date, check
vehicle for overheating
and do REPAIR
PROCEDURE A
- Replace radiator and
hoses
- Flush engine
A
Add if ATF warmer
tested because of
manufacture date or
signs of contamination.
2.1 hrs
- Replace ATF warmer
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Inspection and REPAIR PROCEDURE B
Operation
Number
2185D3
Description
Flat Rate
Time
Defect
Code
Symptom
Code
Template
ID
Failed Part
Number
2WD - Inspect the ATF warmer
manufacture date, check vehicle
for overheating and do REPAIR
PROCEDURE B
12.2 hrs
6ZF00
KG400
A17011C
06201-5EY-A05
12.2 hrs
6ZF00
KG400
A17011D
06201-5EY-A05
12.6 hrs
6ZF00
KG400
A17011E
06201-5EY-A05
12.6 hrs
6ZF00
KG400
A17011F
06201-5EY-A05
-Replace engine, radiator, and
hoses
- Flush heater core
- Includes updating PCM/TCM,
idle learn and alignment
2185D3
2WD - Inspect the ATF warmer
manufacture date, check vehicle
for overheating and do REPAIR
PROCEDURE B
-Replace engine, radiator, and
hoses
- Flush heater core
- Includes updating PCM/TCM,
idle learn and alignment
2185D3
AWD - Inspect the ATF warmer
manufacture date, check vehicle
for overheating and do REPAIR
PROCEDURE B
- Replace engine, radiator, and
hoses
- Flush heater core
- Includes updating PCM/TCM,
idle learn and alignment
2185D3
AWD - Inspect the ATF warmer
manufacture date, check vehicle
for overheating and do REPAIR
PROCEDURE B
- Replace engine, radiator, and
hoses
- Flush heater core
- Includes updating PCM/TCM,
idle learn and alignment
A
Add if ATF warmer tested OK
but within the affected date
range.
0.9 hr
- Replace ATF warmer
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Inspection and REPAIR PROCEDURE C
NOTE:
• Very few engine blocks should be replaced because of overheating. Replaced engine blocks may be called in to
validate damage to the original block.
• Replacement of the engine block
and/or transmission requires DPSM authorization.
Operation
Number
2185D4
Description
Transmission
Replacement
Number
Flat
Rate
Time
Defect
Code
Symptom
Code
Template
ID
Failed Part
Number
2WD - Inspect the ATF
warmer manufacture date
and check vehicle for
overheating and do
REPAIR PROCEDURE C
06200-5EY-A08RM
10.5 hrs
6ZF00
KG400
A17011G
06201-5EY-A05
06200-5EY-A08RM
10.5 hrs
6ZF00
KG400
A17011H
06201-5EY-A05
- Replace transmission,
radiator, and hoses
-Flush engine
- Includes updating
PCM/TCM, idle learn and
alignment
2185D4
2WD - Inspect the ATF
warmer manufacture date
and check vehicle for
overheating and do
REPAIR PROCEDURE C
- Replace transmission,
radiator, and hoses
-Flush engine
- Includes updating
PCM/TCM, idle learn and
alignment
A
Add if the vehicle has an
accessory external
transmission cooler.
0.9 hr
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2185D4
AWD - Inspect the ATF
warmer manufacture date
and check vehicle for
overheating and do
REPAIR PROCEDURE C
06200-5EZ-A09RM
10.9 hrs
6ZF00
KG400
A17011J
06201-5EY-A05
06200-5EZ-A09RM
10.9 hrs
6ZF00
KG400
A17011K
06201-5EY-A05
- Replace transmission,
radiator, and hoses
-Flush engine
- Includes updating
PCM/TCM, idle learn and
alignment
2185D4
AWD - Inspect the ATF
warmer manufacture date
and check vehicle for
overheating and do
REPAIR PROCEDURE C
- Replace transmission,
radiator, and hoses
-Flush engine
- Includes updating
PCM/TCM, idle learn and
alignment
A
Add if the vehicle has an
accessory external
transmission cooler.
0.9 hr
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Inspection and REPAIR PROCEDURE D
NOTE:
• Very few engine blocks should be replaced because of overheating. Replaced engine blocks may be called in to
validate damage to the original block.
• Replacement of the engine block
and/or transmission requires DPSM authorization.
Operation
Number
2185D5
Description
Transmission
Replacement
Number
Flat
Rate
Time
Defect
Code
Symptom
Code
Template
ID
Failed Part
Number
2WD - Inspect the ATF
warmer manufacture
date and check vehicle
for overheating and do
REPAIR
PROCEDURE D
06200-5EY-A08RM
13.1 hrs
6ZF00
KG400
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