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NHTSA ID Number: 10245151

Manufacturer Communication Number: G_230920_TC_EN

TSB/Document Date: 2023-11-08


Summary

Through the ongoing, stringent quality control activities we perform on the components installed on our vehicles and our continuous research to develop better new technical solutions, in keeping with our commitment to ensure the best ownership experience possible for the customer, with this note we wish to provide you with a Trouble shooting guide for resolving the following problems. for the vehicles in question 1. Starting difficulties, irregular power delivery, sporadic switching off at idle. 2. Incorrect gear number display on instrument panel. 3. ABSeBay logo icon flashing on instrument panel and error C1715 (MEM or ATT) present in the ABSeBay logo ECU. 4. Anomalous absorption of the instrument panel.


TECHNICAL COMMUNICATION G_230921_TC_EN

16/10/2023

Model: Moto GuzzieBay logo V100 Mandello - Mandello S
Subject: Troubleshooting guide

Dear Dealer / Service Centre / Authorised Workshop,
Through the ongoing, stringent quality control activities we perform on the components installed
on our vehicles and our continuous research to develop better new technical solutions, in
keeping with our commitment to ensure the best ownership experience possible for the
customer, with this note we wish to provide you with a guide for resolving the following problems
for the vehicles in question:

1. Starting difficulties, irregular power delivery, sporadic switching off at idle.
2. Incorrect gear number display on instrument panel.
3. ABSeBay logo icon flashing on instrument panel and error C1715 (MEM or ATT) present in the
ABSeBay logo ECU.
4. Anomalous absorption of the instrument panel.

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Fault

Starting difficulties, irregular power delivery, sporadic switching off at
idle.

Possible causes

Incorrect Pick Up sensor clearance.

TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE
Solution

Note:

Adjust the Pick-Up clearance to 0.6mm

In the event of a warranty request for reimbursement of labour and/or
spare parts, please describe in the notes the diagnosis, i.e. 'the situation
believed to be the cause of the problem', and attach a photo.

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Fault

Incorrect gear number display on instrument panel.

Possible causes

Gear selector malfunction.

TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE
Solution

Replace the part no. 1A020942 with part no. 2A0015145 updated in
dimensional tolerances → Display fault resolved.
N.B.
Replacement of the gear sensor part no. 1A018096R is not necessary.

Note:

In the event of a warranty request for reimbursement of labour and/or
spare parts, please describe in the notes the diagnosis, i.e. 'the situation
believed to be the cause of the problem', and attach a photo.

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Fault

ABSeBay logo icon flashing on instrument panel and error C1715 (MEM or
ATT) present in the ABSeBay logo ECU.

Possible causes

The inertial sensor registers abnormal vibrations.

WARNING:
If the problem occurs after starting with the vehicle in motion, therefore during the learning
period of the inertial platform → instruct the customer on the correct use of the vehicle.

TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE
The fault occurs after starting, in the very initial stages of vehicle movement.
Test

Carry out a battery efficiency check

A

Battery OK (fully functional) → TEST 1

B

Battery problems → Recharge or replace battery (RESOLVED)

The fault appears while riding.
Test 1: Undertray checks
Test

Check the fastening of the undertray.
Ensure the undertray is correctly seated and un-stressed on the frame.

A

The undertray is loose → Fix the undertray (RESOLVED)

B

The undertray preloads the frame → Eliminate the preload (RESOLVED)

C

The problem persists → Proceed to TEST 2

Test 2: Inertial sensor checks
Test

Check the tightness of the fixing screws of the inertial sensor.

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Check for cables or wiring harness that stress the inertial sensor body or connector.

Check wether the petrol tank stresses the inertial sensor connector.

A

The inertial sensor fixing screws are loose → Tighten the screws (RESOLVED)

B

Cables or wiring harnesses preload the inertia sensor connector → Eliminate
preload (RESOLVED)

C

The petrol tank preloads the inertia sensor connector → Replace the petrol tank
(RESOLVED)

D

The problem persists → Replace the inertial sensor (RESOLVED)

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Note:

In the event of a warranty request for reimbursement of labour and/or
spare parts, please describe in the notes the diagnosis, i.e. 'the situation
believed to be the cause of the problem', and attach a photo.

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Fault

Battery discharge in the event of prolonged standstill

Possible causes

Battery malfunction
Instrument panel malfunction

TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE
TEST 1: Absorption control
Test

WARNING:
The test must only be carried out with the start switch in the OFF position in
order to avoid electrical damage to the measuring instrument.
Remove the 5A fuse (instrument panel supply line) and connect a current tester
with a scale of 400/500 mA.

The value shown by the instrument after a few seconds will be the current
absorption of the instrument (in the example photo below, the current absorption
is 0,215 mA, regular instrument panel absorption).

A

Normal absorption: 0.2 - 5 mA → Replace the battery only if the correct
charging procedure does not restore the battery to 13 volts. (RESOLVED)
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Note: To prevent the battery running flat, the 30-amp fuse must be removed
from all vehicles that are stationary for more than two weeks (including
showroom vehicles). If the fuse is not removed under these conditions, the
battery will not be replaced under warranty.
Abnormal absorption: > 5 mA → Replace instrument panel (RESOLVED)

B
Note:

Please enclose a photo showing the results of the measurement carried
out with the warranty request.

Normal battery charging current for a V100 lead acid battery: 1.2-1.4 amp

Charging voltage: must be between 14 and 15 volts.

Please contact the Technical Help Desk of our Technical Support Service for any queries or
assistance.

Best regards,

PiaggioeBay logo & C. SpA
Aftersales Business Unit
Operations & Technical Service

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