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NHTSA ID Number: 10128414

Manufacturer Communication Number: A911511 2041608-

TSB/Document Date: 2018-02-05


Summary

When the vehicle is started, the GPS location or vehicle direction indicated on the MMI navigation map does not match the vehicle?s actual location or direction of travel for a long period of time (often as long as 10 minutes). The issue occurs in open sky, with no large buildings obstructing the sky view. The issue is intermittent, but it can occur for long periods of time during a single day. The issue may or may not resolve itself. When the issue occurs, the GPS navigation system satellite reception shows 0 satellites. Due to the infrequency of the issue, this might not be verifiable. (To view the number of satellites being received, go to Nav >> Route >> Select Current Position (first item in list) and scroll up). A DTC related to the GPS antenna or MMI system may be or may not be present. If the sky view is blocked because the vehicle is in a parking structure, below ground, or next to large buildings, it is normal for the GPS location or vehicle direction indicated on the MMI navigation map to not match the vehicle?s actual location or direction of travel. The blocked sky view prevents the vehicle from receiving satellites, and the system may be temporarily lost (for example, the system may show the wrong location on the map screen) until four satellites can be received. This behavior can last for several minutes even in clear sky view when the vehicle exiting a parking structure or underground structure. The MMI can take up to 5-10 minutes to sufficiently get a 3D-GPS fix once the vehicle has clear view of the sky. This is a normal condition, and is not related to the condition described above. Replacing the MMI main unit, replacing the GPS antenna, or updating the MMI software will not change this behavior. A potential antenna hardware failure can affect some model year 2014 - 2015 vehicles.


Technical Service Bulletin
91 MMI3G+ GPS navigation location inaccurate or navigation takes a very long time to acquire location
(Q7/Q3)
91 15 11 2041608/1 August 25, 2015.
Model(s)

Year

VIN Range

Vehicle-Specific Equipment

Q3

2015

All

MMI3G+

Q7

2014 - 2015

All

MMI3G+

Condition
• The vehicle is a Q7 or Q3.
• When the vehicle is started, the GPS location or vehicle
direction indicated on the MMI navigation map does not match
the vehicle’s actual location or direction of travel for a long
period of time (often as long as 10 minutes):
• The issue occurs in open sky, with no large buildings
obstructing the sky view.
• The issue is intermittent, but it can occur for long periods
of time during a single day. The issue may or may not
resolve itself.

Figure 1. No satellite reception.

• When the issue occurs, the GPS navigation system
satellite reception shows 0 satellites. Due to the
infrequency of the issue, this might not be verifiable. (To
view the number of satellites being received, go to Nav >>
Route >> Select Current Position (first item in list) and
scroll up (Figure 1)).
• A DTC related to the GPS antenna or MMI system may be or
may not be present
Tip: If the sky view is blocked because the vehicle is in a parking structure, below ground, or next to large
buildings, it is normal for the GPS location or vehicle direction indicated on the MMI navigation map to not match
the vehicle’s actual location or direction of travel. The blocked sky view prevents the vehicle from receiving
satellites, and the system may be temporarily lost (for example, the system may show the wrong location on the
map screen) until four satellites can be received. This behavior can last for several minutes even in clear sky view
when the vehicle exiting a parking structure or underground structure. The MMI can take up to 5-10 minutes to
sufficiently get a 3D-GPS fix once the vehicle has clear view of the sky. This is a normal condition, and is not
related to the condition described above. Replacing the MMI main unit, replacing the GPS antenna, or updating
the MMI software will not change this behavior.

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Technical Service Bulletin
Technical Background
A potential antenna hardware failure can affect some model year 2014 - 2015 vehicles.

Production Solution
New GPS antenna hardware was introduced in production starting with calendar week 45 of 2014 (mid-model year
2015).

Service
If the vehicle arrives with a static condition of “0” satellite reception:
1. Move the vehicle outside to a clear view of the sky.
2. Allow the car to sit with the ignition on for at least five minutes, then use the table below to check Measured
Value Blocks 97, 107, and 192 in the information electronics control module 1, J794 (address word 5F).
The “Good Values (Bad Values)” column shows the known good values with the known bad values in
parentheses. The GPS Status, GPS 3D Fix, and number of Received/Used Satellites will be the most helpful
in determining if the MMI is receiving GPS information from the satellites.

Measured Value Block

Name

Good Values (Bad Values)

MVB 97.1

Received Satellites

4-16 (0)

MVB 97.2

Used Satellites

4-16 (0)

MVB 97.3

Code-locked satellites

4-16 (0)

MVB 97.4

Phase-locked satellites

4-16 (0)

MVB 107.1

GPS Status

Valid (Not Valid)

MVB 107.3

GPS 3D Fix

4 = 3D Fix (0 or 1 = No GPS data; 2
= No Fix; 3 = 2D Fix, 255 = Not
connected)

MVB 192.1

0 Satellite Condition Start Date

This will show the date when the “0”
satellite condition started.

MVB 192.2

0 Satellite Condition Start Time of Day This will show the time of day when
the “0” satellite condition started.

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Technical Service Bulletin
3. If it is determined that the antenna is potentially faulty, obtain a known good GPS antenna and coaxial cable to
verify that they will fix the issue. Attach the antenna coaxial directly to the back of the MMI main unit using a
service repair coaxial cable (see ETKA using P/N 000 098 650). There are varying lengths that can be
purchased. For instance, P/N 000 098 650 = 300mm/1ft & P/N 00 098 658 = 7000mm/23ft). Then connect the
other end of the coaxial to the test antenna (new service part).
4. Check the MMI to see how many satellites are received with the new antenna. To view the number of satellites
being received, go to Nav >> Route >> Select Current Position (first item in list) and scroll up. If needed,
recheck the Measured Value Blocks and verify the values change to good values.
5. • If it is determined the antenna is faulty, replace the GPS antenna. If the coaxial cable is replaced, order the
correct cable adapter with the 90 degree bend in the connector (See ETKA).
• If the antenna is not determined to be the causal part, continue to diagnose the issue.

Warranty
Claim Type:

Use applicable claim type. If vehicle is outside any warranty, this Technical Service
Bulletin is informational only.

Service Number:

9113

Damage Code:

0040

Labor Operation:

ECM information display control head
remove+reinstall

9196 1900

See Elsa

GPS Antenna check

9113 9999

50 TU

GPS Antenna paint new part

9113 6100

50 TU

GPS Antenna remove+reinstall

9113 1900

See Elsa

GFF

0150 0000

Time stated on
diagnostic
protocol

Diagnostic Time:

(Max 60 TU)
Road test prior to service procedure

0121 0002

10 TU

Road test after service procedure

0121 0004

10 TU

Technical diagnosis at dealer’s discretion
(Refer to Section 2.2.1.2 and AudieBay logo Warranty Online for DADP allowance details)
Claim Comment:

As per TSB #2041608/1

All warranty claims submitted for payment must be in accordance with the AudieBay logo Warranty Policies and Procedures
Manual. Claims are subject to review or audit by AudieBay logo Warranty.

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Audi of America, Inc., its affiliated companies and its licensors. All rights are reserved to make changes at any time without notice. No part of this document may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval
system, or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, nor may these materials be modified or reposted to other sites, without the prior
expressed written permission of the publisher.

Technical Service Bulletin
Required Parts and Tools
Part Number

Part Description

Quantity

000 098 65X (See ETKA)

Test Coax Cable (Varying lengths)

1

4L0 035 503 N GRU

Roof combination antenna (Q7)

1

4G0 035 503 J GRU

Roof combination antenna (Q3)

1

Additional Information
All parts and service references provided in this TSB (2040406) are subject to change and/or removal. Always
check with your Parts Department and service manuals for the latest information.

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