NHTSA ID Number: 10049768
Incident Date: 2003-11-22
Manufacturer's Name: General Motors
, LLC
Vehicle/Equipment Make: OLDSMOBILE
Vehicle/Equipment Model: BRAVADA
Model Year: 2002
9999 If Unknown Or N/A
Vehicle Identification Number: 1GHDT13S922
Vehicle Mileage At Failure: 22500
Vehicle Speed: 17
Number Of Occurrences: 1
Was Vehicle Towed: No
Consumer Location: SHOREVIEW, MN
Summary of Complaint
THE 2002 BRAVADA AWD SYSTEM HAS SERIOUS SAFETY PROBLEMS.PRIOR TO THE INCIDENT I WAS COMMENTING TO MY WIFE THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT HANDLING WELL IN SNOWY CONDITIONS. THE ALL WHEEL DRIVE ENGAGES ONLY AFTER A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REAR TIRE SPIN FOLLOWED BY A LURCH AS THE FRONT TIRES KICK IN. THE AWD LURCHES (ENGAGING AND DIS-ENGAGING MANY TIMES AS I TIRED TO GET UNDER WAY AT A STOP LIGHT). THE VEHICLE WOULD EASILY FISH TAIL WITHOUT ANY ERRATIC OR PROVOKED ACTIONS BY THE DRIVER. WHEN THE ACCIDENT HAPPENED I WAS TURNING RIGHT ONTO A 4 LANE DIVIDED MAIN STREET THAT WAS ICY/SNOW PACKED I WAS TIP TOEING AROUND THE CORNER WHEN BACK TIRES SPUN WHICH ENGAGED THE AWD WITH A LURCH. THIS CAUSED THE VEHICLE TO FISH TAIL TO THE LEFT, TO THE RIGHT AND BACK TO THE LEFT AS THE DRIVER TRIED TO SAVE THE VEHICLE FROM DISASTER. I REACHED A TOP SPEED OF 17 MPH (BARELY ABOVE IDLE). EACH TIME THE VEHICLE FISH TAILED IT WAS MADE WORSE BY THE AWD SYSTEM THAT LURCHED (AGAIN AND AGAIN) UPSETTING THE VEHICLE IN ITS ALREADY PRECARIOUS STATE. THE VEHICLE SLOWED TO 6 MPH BEFORE IMPACT INTO A LIGHT POLE.I NOW HAVE MAJOR SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT DRIVABILITY OF THIS VEHICLE IN SLIPPERY CONDITIONS. GIVEN THE LURCHING AND TAIL HAPPY NATURE OF THIS AWD SYSTEM I WOULD RATHER NOT DRIVE THIS VEHICLE IN WINTER (SNOW/ICY) CONDITIONS (WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT I GOT THIS VEHICLE). I ALSO FEEL THAT I CANNOT SELL OR TRADE THIS VEHICLE IN FOR FEAR THAT THE NEXT OWNERS WILL EXPERIENCE THE SAME LURCHING AND FISH TAILING CONDITIONS WITH THE AWD BUT HAVE MORE DAMAGING/DANGEROUS CONSEQUENCES. TO HAVE GM SAY THAT THIS VEHICLE IS WORKING WITHIN SPECIFICATIONS IS JUST PLAIN INSULTING AND IS THE BIGGEST LIE IVE EVER HEARD. IF ANYONE ELSE HAS EXPERIENCED THESE DRIVABILITY PROBLEMS PLEASE OPEN A NHTSA CASE SO WE CAN GET GM TO FIX OR RECALL THE VEHICLE.*AK
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CRASH: Yes
WAS VEHICLE INVOLVED IN A CRASH
FIRE: No
WAS VEHICLE INVOLVED IN A FIRE
INJURIES: 0
NUMBER OF PERSONS INJURED
DEATHS: 0
NUMBER OF FATALITIES
Was Medical Attention Required: No
Was Incident Reported To Police: Yes
Date Of Incident: 2003-11-22
(YYYY-MM-DD)
Date Added To File: 2003-12-15
(YYYY-MM-DD)
Date Complaint Received By NHTSA: 2003-12-15
(YYYY-MM-DD)
Date Purchased: 2003-05-01
(YYYY-MM-DD)
Was Original Owner: No
Product Type: Vehicle
V = Vehicle T = Tires E = Equipment C = Child Restraint
Specific Component's Description: POWER TRAIN:TRANSFER CASE (4-WHEEL DRIVE)
Anti-Lock Brakes: Yes
Cruise Control: Yes
Number Of Cylinders: 6
Drive Train Type: AWD
[AWD, 4WD, FWD, RWD]
Fuel System: Fuel Injection
FI = Fuel Injection TB = Turbo
Fuel Type: Gas
BF = BiFuel CN = CNG/LPG DS = Diesel GS = Gas HR = HybridElectric
Vehicle Transmission Type [Auto, Man]: AUTO
(DOT) Department Of Transportation Tire Identifier:
Tire Size:
Location Of Tire:
FSW = Driver Side Front DSR = Driver Side Rear FTR = Passenger Side Front PSR = Passenger Side Rear SPR = Spare
Type Of Tire Failure:
BST = Blister BLW = Blowout TTL = Crack OFR = Out Of Round TSW = Puncture TTR = Road Hazard TSP = Tread Separation
Was Defective Tire Repaired:
Was Part Original Equipment:
Date Of Manufacture:
(YYYYMMDD)
Type Of Child Seat:
B = Booster C = Convertible I = Infant IN = Integrated TD = Toddler
Installation System:
A = Vehicle Safety Belt B = Latch System
Dealer's Name: VERN JOHNSON MOTORS
Dealer's Telephone Number:
Dealer's City: PAYNESVILLE
Dealer's State: MN
Dealer's Zipcode: 55126
SOURCE OF COMPLAINT CODE:
CAG = Consumer Action Group CON = Forwarded From A Congressional Office DP = Defect Petition,result Of A Defect Petition EVOQ = Hotline VOQ EWR = EARLY WARNING REPORTING INS = Insurance Company IVOQ = NHTSA Web Site LETR = Consumer Letter MAVQ = NHTSA Mobile APP MIVQ = NHTSA Mobile APP MVOQ = Optical Marked VOQ RC = Recall Complaint, Result Of A Recall Investigation RP = Recall Petition, Result Of A Recall Petition SVOQ = Portable Safety Complaint Form (PDF) VOQ = NHTSA Vehicle Owners Questionnaire
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